Comments on: Chapter 5, Page 19 https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/ by Blue Delliquanti Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:27:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Borg https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-64135 Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:27:30 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-64135 The whole concept of masculinity is dumb anyway.

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By: cosimita https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-60377 Wed, 04 Jan 2017 19:52:53 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-60377 bruh, he knew he was dying, he took one of the emulators… im pretty sure he had a play in the mysterious copy, if not the whole ai thing, and was somehow capable of erasing that knowledge from his robot self…

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By: Snorlaxation https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-59057 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:00:58 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-59057 In reply to Robotspierre.

True, but at least then Brendan would just accept that Al’s bullshit choice was what he wanted, and leave, maybe then prevent a lot of this stuff and what they said to each other?

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By: Trina https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-59012 Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:37:15 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-59012 In reply to Burr.

I think you’re right about Al only ever being violent toward himself, but the ‘abusive’ conversation I’m mentioning here also has roots in neglect as well as violence. There’s a pattern of ignoring Brendan’s needs and pleas for openness, and giving Brendan the majority of the emotional labor in the relationship and the business, with the added benefit of Brendan doing most of the business too. Even if it’s not abuse, even if it is just passive aggressively venting emotions, flipping a table in that controlled way is intimidation. So, I don’t know. Abusive maybe, but abuse.. No. You’re probably right.

You’re totally right in that it’s unfair of Brendan to get passive aggressive and snap, but I think he’s been feeling very neglected in general. Al was encouraged to grow the beard because Brendan thought it was hot, and it was unfair for Brendan to put that on Al. But I think the difference between bring private and shy versus being avoidant and non-communicative are important. As a much more Brendan-type, I understand where he’s coming from… But I also think if Al actually explained his emotions, why he felt the way he did, he could provide intimacy and comfort. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be private, or super open, or anything, but you need to be willing to communicate that to your partner. Al’s never talked about it. He’s well known for never talking about his relationship, his past, his emotions, his life.. Brendan’s asked and asked and asked. He loves him and he’s told Al he’d give him whatever support he wanted, and shown this by being supportive in work and in home. Al hasn’t reciprocated that emotional labor and trust. Al doesn’t need to give these things, but the cost is losing Brendan, and he doesn’t want that either. This is so much more than wanting to go public, it’s wanting to share in each other’s lives. If Brendan can’t share Al’s past, he at least wants to share the present, and if he can’t have that, he’s frustrated and hurt that Al is so withholding. Like I said, if Al talked about his fears, his emotions, his boundaries.. if Al SHARED, Brendan probably wouldn’t care that they weren’t out. If Al stood up for Brendan’s work, if he was more supportive in other ways, the relationship would be a moot point.

He’s a kid, and you’re right. If they are so incompatible, they shouldn’t be together. But they love each other and want to make it work, but don’t have a vocabulary, skills, and emotional distance to make it work now.

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By: Kaybelle https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58995 Mon, 04 Jul 2016 08:12:25 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58995 Isn’t the discussion sort of ignoring the internal, unvocalized trauma for Al resulting from all of this “manliness” talk from Brendan when the very heart of the issue may very well be that Al is NOT – in fact – really a man?

Brendan certainly has valid grievances going into the argument as a person whose beloved is too ashamed of him to publicly acknowledge their relationship, and the “fruit” comment just adds to that. But if Al is – and always has been – struggling with gender, all of Brendan’s gender policing is just driving Al farther and farther from anything remotely resembling a space safe to express himself.

And just for bonus speculation, can we talk about the fact that Al just suddenly removed some of his facial hair (ding!) and seems to be experiencing symptoms potentially indicative of a pulmonary embolism, which could be the result of (perhaps unsupervised) estrogen treatment? Fever, coughing up blood…

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By: Dotcom https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58994 Mon, 04 Jul 2016 05:50:06 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58994 How very sad. This is why I’m a big fan of using safety words in arguments. It stops these kinds of toxic patterns from both people. Sadly this is not something these guys will learn in this “lifetime.” Hoping the future holds change.

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By: Jago https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58985 Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:18:32 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58985 I’m probably not the first one to theorize this, but I think Al knows that he’s not doing well in the health-department and is doing something noble-stupid.
Also, man, I hope they’ll ge to talk it out in the present timeline, because seeing this fight as their last ‘talk’ before Al died is sad.

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By: Jago https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58984 Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:06:24 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58984 In reply to CT.

I think it’s less about ‘changing’ a person, and more about communication. Which is very important in a relationship. But yes, eventually, change. Progressive change is good and both of them need to work on themselves and on their relationship, but in order to do that they’d have to talk. I really hope they get to that (in the present storyline), even if it’s just to reconcile. It’d be nice.

Also I’m gonna be blunt: saying ‘get over it’ to a person with trust issues (of any origin, really) isn’t very nice, but saying ‘if you’re smart, why did you stay with him?’ to a person in an unhealthy relationship isn’t very nice either.

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By: Luces https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58983 Sun, 03 Jul 2016 08:24:36 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58983 It’s really sad that even after 15 years and a still-not-cleared-up miraculous rebirth (Sulla, I think) these two still can’t talk with each other.
Typical for a bad relationship: Each partner expects the other to read his/her thoughts. And to change his/her ways, please

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By: CT https://ohumanstar.com/comic/chapter-5-page-19/#comment-58978 Sat, 02 Jul 2016 16:33:00 +0000 http://ohumanstar.com/?post_type=comic&p=1768#comment-58978 In reply to Britt.

Brendan is supposed to be smart. He is a graduate of MIT. He even said so. So what’s a smart young man doing when he decides to start a relationship with a brilliant but emotionally scarred man almost old enough to be his grandfather? He was being stupid.

If Al had been a woman who had been raped, and was having trouble emotionally being intimate with men again, or expressing sexuality, would you demand that she ‘just get over it’ and negotiate a new personality? I don’t think so.

For the record, there is a great deal of difference between ‘fear of homosexuals’, and being extremely off put by campy behavior. The door works both ways. If Brendan expects Al to ‘change’, could Brendan flip a switch and turn off his swishy behavior as well? I know I’m going to get negative feedback for saying this, but it is the elephant in the room. If you think others can alter the way they are to make you happy, are you ready to change just as much to make them happy as well?

If the response argument is going to be ‘Brendan should not have to change who he is to just to please Al’, then please extend the courtesy to Al as well.

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